Tyler, The Creator certainly seems to agree. In a newly published Billboard cover story conversation with Rembert Browne, Tyler mentioned podcasts when he shared what would be his first order of business in a purely hypothetical Tyler-becomes-POTUS scenario.

Getting into artist management “was never something we talked about,” Kelly says. But nearly 15 years after starting their small firm, 4 Strikes, it has continued to punch above its class, becoming one of the mightiest forces in management today.